Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/15/2012 09:00 AM House FINANCE


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CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 53(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act reestablishing the Alaska Commission on the                                                                        
     Status of Women; and relating to the purpose and                                                                           
     powers of the Alaska Human Relations Commission."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:22:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough MOVED CSSB 53 27-LS0107\M before the                                                                      
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CELESTE HODGE,  STAFF, SENATOR BETTYE DAVIS,  explained that                                                                    
the legislation  reestablished the Alaska Commission  on the                                                                    
Status  of Women,  a nine  member body  that was  devoted to                                                                    
improving  the  status  of women  in  Alaska.  She  provided                                                                    
opening remarks:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The  Alaska  Commission  on the  Status  of  Women  was                                                                    
     established  in  1978,  renewed,  and  renamed  to  the                                                                    
     Alaska Women's  Commission in 1983. In  1993 the Alaska                                                                    
     Women's  Commission   and  the  Alaska   Commission  on                                                                    
     Children and Youth were absorbed  into the Alaska Human                                                                    
     Relations  Commission,  which  continues  to  exist  in                                                                    
     statute, but was never funded  and declared inactive in                                                                    
     1996. Staggering  statistics for  women in  Alaska show                                                                    
     need to  reestablish the Alaska Women's  Commission. To                                                                    
     focus on broad, diverse  cross section issues effecting                                                                    
     women. Alaska  faces disproportionately high  levels of                                                                    
     poverty  among women  of all  ages.  Poverty rates  for                                                                    
     unmarried   female  householders   with  children   are                                                                    
     particularly  high and  have consistently  been two  or                                                                    
     three times as high as  overall male and female poverty                                                                    
     rates since 1996. Survey data  compiled by the American                                                                    
     Community  Survey  shows  that of  26,518  families  in                                                                    
     Alaska  with a  female head  of household  22.6 percent                                                                    
     live  below  the poverty  level.  The  gender wage  gap                                                                    
     persists  in  Alaska  and across  a  wide  spectrum  of                                                                    
     occupations and  industries. In  2009 according  to the                                                                    
     Alaska Department  of Labor,  Alaskan women  on average                                                                    
     earned only  66.6 percent of what  men earned. Although                                                                    
     more women than men in  Alaska hold a bachelor's degree                                                                    
     or  higher,   data  shows  that  men's   median  annual                                                                    
     earnings  are   higher  in  every   educational  level.                                                                    
     Alaskan   women,   in   particular  women   of   color,                                                                    
     experience health care disparities  and women living in                                                                    
     rural  Alaska have  worse than  average disparities  on                                                                    
     access  and utilization  of services.  Alaska continues                                                                    
     to  have  the  highest  rates  of  sexual  assault  and                                                                    
     domestic violence in the nation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Members of  this committee, it's so  unfortunate [that]                                                                    
     Alaska  has maintained  these startling  statistics for                                                                    
     decades. It's  past time for Alaska  to reestablish the                                                                    
     Alaska Women's Commission; an  official state entity to                                                                    
     begin  focusing on  improving the  status of  women and                                                                    
     children in Alaska.  Continued long-term improvement in                                                                    
     the status of  women in Alaska is not  only of personal                                                                    
     benefit  to the  health  and  well-being of  individual                                                                    
     women  and children,  but  contributes  to the  general                                                                    
     health and stability of our economy as well.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hodge  was  available  for questions  and  thanked  the                                                                    
committee for hearing the bill.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:25:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ARLISS STURGELEWSKI,  SELF, ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),                                                                    
spoke in  strong support  of the  legislation. She  had been                                                                    
very  active with  the original  women's commission  and had                                                                    
been  sorry to  see it  go  away. She  was in  favor of  the                                                                    
bill's structure that called for  hearings in both rural and                                                                    
urban areas of  the state; it would allow for  a forum where                                                                    
issues  of  concern  could be  expressed.  She  thanked  the                                                                    
committee for hearing the legislation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:27:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CECILIA   ZAMORA,   PRESIDENT,   NATIONAL   ASSOCIATION   OF                                                                    
COMMISSION  FOR  WOMEN,   CALIFORNIA  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
vocalized support  for the bill  and the  reestablishment of                                                                    
the commission  in Alaska. She  discussed the  importance of                                                                    
the  legislation  that  would   help  the  women  and  girls                                                                    
throughout  Alaska.  She  stressed  that  state  commissions                                                                    
played  a vital  role for  the governor  and legislature  in                                                                    
advising  on  important  issues;  the  funds  spent  on  the                                                                    
commission  would  be  money well  spent.  She  assured  the                                                                    
committee that the commission would be a help to the state.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:29:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze CLOSED the public testimony.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough addressed  the fiscal  note from  the                                                                    
Office of  the Governor.  The allocation  was to  the Alaska                                                                    
Women's Commission and added  three full-time employees. The                                                                    
funding request  included $515,400  for FY 13,  $472,000 for                                                                    
FY 14, $481,300 for FY 15,  $490,900 for FY 16, $580,000 for                                                                    
FY 17, and $508,500 for FY 18.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  asked about the  second page of  the fiscal                                                                    
note  related  to  geographic representation  that  was  not                                                                    
included in the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  believed the  governor's office  was using                                                                    
random locations to determine the fiscal note.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  asked whether  three employees  were needed                                                                    
to run the  commission; he believed the  number seemed high.                                                                    
He asked whether  there had been three staff  members in the                                                                    
past.  Ms.  Hodge replied  that  there  had originally  been                                                                    
three staff  members on the commission.  She emphasized that                                                                    
the  staff had  accomplished  a significant  amount of  work                                                                    
apart  from   organizing  several   meetings  a   year.  She                                                                    
furthered  that in  the former  commission's later  years it                                                                    
had gone to a volunteer  organization; the annual report had                                                                    
gone from pages down to a  paragraph due to the reduction in                                                                    
work accomplished.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:32:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas thought  a range  24  was high  on the  pay                                                                    
scale. He  noted that  the three  positions were  ranges 24,                                                                    
18, and 15. He believed  the numbers were excessive for work                                                                    
related to the planning of four or so meetings per year.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  asked  what the  average  number  of                                                                    
staff was for a board with  seven members. Ms. Hodge did not                                                                    
know. She added  that the board would be  comprised of seven                                                                    
members  and two  appointed  members  at the  administrative                                                                    
level.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas restated his question  related to the number                                                                    
of proposed staff for the commission.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
GUY    BELL,    ADMINISTRATIVE   DIRECTOR,    DIVISION    OF                                                                    
ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES, OFFICE  OF THE  GOVERNOR, answered                                                                    
that the fiscal  note had been modeled  after the commission                                                                    
when it had  existed in FY 90  and FY 91. There  had been as                                                                    
many as  four or five  staff on  the commission at  the time                                                                    
with  pay ranges  similar to  those proposed  in the  fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas did not believe  the fact that the positions                                                                    
had  existed previously  was justification  to include  them                                                                    
currently.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman   pointed  to   the  duties   of  the                                                                    
commission (page 3  of the legislation); the  duties were to                                                                    
improve  the  status of  women  by  conducting research.  He                                                                    
stated that  the commission  members were  supposed to  do a                                                                    
portion of  the research;  therefore, he believed  one staff                                                                    
to help coordinate the research would be sufficient.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:36:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze   asked  Representative  Joule   how  many                                                                    
members made  up the Arctic  Policy Commission.  He believed                                                                    
the commission  had an employee who  was paid at a  range 19                                                                    
or 20.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule  replied that the fiscal  note included                                                                    
one staff position that had been  changed to a range 19 from                                                                    
a range 24  by the Senate Finance  Committee. The commission                                                                    
was comprised  of 19 members.  He discussed that one  of his                                                                    
employees  had staffed  the Northern  Waters Task  Force and                                                                    
had been busy  for the duration of the task  force. He noted                                                                    
that committee members did engage  primarily at the meetings                                                                    
when information was brought to them by staff.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stoltze  remarked   that   the  information   was                                                                    
illustrative related to the current bill.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson could  not vote  for the  bill if  it                                                                    
included  three staff  positions. She  had heard  opposition                                                                    
from  constituents related  to the  $0.5 million  price tag.                                                                    
She  believed  the fiscal  note  should  be dropped  to  one                                                                    
position at  a range 19;  the commission could come  back to                                                                    
the  legislature  in  the future  if  it  needed  additional                                                                    
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  was mixed on  the bill, but  was currently                                                                    
leaning towards a "do not pass."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  was also  concerned about  the fiscal                                                                    
note.  He  believed an  approval  of  the fiscal  note  went                                                                    
against the  committee's actions throughout the  session. He                                                                    
looked  at  page  3  of  the bill  and  discussed  that  any                                                                    
research  conducted at  the outset  would  be secondary.  He                                                                    
surmised that perhaps the need  for more staff would develop                                                                    
over time;  however, the bill currently  included $3 million                                                                    
through FY 18 and the  committee had not included funding in                                                                    
that amount for  any of the other  commissions. He supported                                                                    
the bill, but not the hefty fiscal note.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:41:06 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:45:53 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan MOVED  to  AMEND the  fiscal note  to                                                                    
reduce the  staff to  two; one at  a range 20  and one  at a                                                                    
range 17.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze clarified that  the positions would include                                                                    
an executive director and a support staff.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman  commented  that  the  Arctic  Policy                                                                    
Council was  a large  council with  a significant  amount of                                                                    
work and  only had one  employee at a  range 19. He  did not                                                                    
believe  two  positions  made  sense   for  a  seven  member                                                                    
commission. He proposed one position at a range 20.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  asked  if the  commission  would  be                                                                    
located in the  governor's office. Ms. Hodge  replied in the                                                                    
affirmative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon asked  whether phone  calls would  be                                                                    
directed through the governor's office central line.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze did not believe  that would be the case. He                                                                    
believed  there  was  an   overall  committee  consensus  to                                                                    
include   funding  for   two   positions.  He   acknowledged                                                                    
Representative  Neuman's   expression  that   the  positions                                                                    
should be reduced to one.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman MOVED  to reduce  the fiscal  note to                                                                    
include one position at a  range 20. He referenced the large                                                                    
amount of  work done by  legislative staff who dealt  with a                                                                    
significant number  of constituents. He reiterated  that one                                                                    
position should be sufficient to staff the commission.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:49:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough  declared a  conflict of  interest due                                                                    
to  the  gender  specific  nature of  the  legislation.  She                                                                    
discussed that  there were disadvantaged women  and children                                                                    
throughout the  state. She  had been  a strong  supporter of                                                                    
equity, respect,  and for  children of  Alaska who  had been                                                                    
harmed. The bill provided an  opportunity for groups to come                                                                    
together  to address  some of  the  disparaging things  that                                                                    
occurred  in  Alaska,  such   as  suicide  prevention,  wage                                                                    
disparities,   and   other.   She  understood   that   other                                                                    
commissions  only had  one staff  member; however,  it would                                                                    
require a significant  amount of work for  the commission to                                                                    
catch up. She pointed out  that the legislature could always                                                                    
reduce  the number  further  in the  future  if needed.  She                                                                    
understood that the  fiscal note was a  point of contention.                                                                    
She  discussed that  the  sponsor would  still  like to  see                                                                    
three  positions. She  asked for  the committee  to consider                                                                    
keeping the  positions at two  and to review  the commission                                                                    
the  following year  to ensure  that it  held value  for the                                                                    
people in  Alaska. She stressed  the importance  of creating                                                                    
equity  in the  conversation  about how  women  were on  the                                                                    
victim side of perpetration in the state.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  asked  whether the  governor's  office                                                                    
could report to the legislature  the following year to relay                                                                    
whether the two positions  were sufficient or necessary. Mr.                                                                    
Bell  responded in  the affirmative.  He  detailed that  the                                                                    
commission  would be  an independent  organization that  was                                                                    
administratively  under  the  Office of  the  Governor;  the                                                                    
office  would track  how the  commission  evolved and  would                                                                    
come to  the legislature with any  funding suggestions going                                                                    
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stoltze   acknowledged  Representative   Neuman's                                                                    
desire to reduce the staff.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan had  not made  the recommendation  to                                                                    
include two positions  lightly. He could easily  see why the                                                                    
positions  would be  needed to  do the  job. He  pointed out                                                                    
that legislators  had two or  more staff  during legislative                                                                    
sessions and  had no problem  employing them  year-round. He                                                                    
did  not  believe  that  the  committee  should  arbitrarily                                                                    
change  the  entire  arrangement   in  the  absence  of  any                                                                    
compelling information. The  goal was to have  people in the                                                                    
state's employ concentrating on the issues.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:55:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neuman  understood the  issue. He  noted that                                                                    
his  concern was  related to  future  years when  government                                                                    
would need  to be reduced. He  opined that it was  easier to                                                                    
create public  employee positions  than it was  to eliminate                                                                    
them.  He  discussed  a  personal  story.  He  WITHDREW  his                                                                    
OBJECTION. Co-Chair Stoltze noted the concern.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas pointed out that  there had been significant                                                                    
savings by reducing the fiscal note to two positions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule told a related personal story.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  asked whether ranges 22  and 15 would                                                                    
be  a  better  spread   in  terms  of  attracting  qualified                                                                    
applicants for the executive  director position. He wondered                                                                    
whether an  administrative services director position  was a                                                                    
range 22.  Mr. Bell replied that  an administrative services                                                                    
director position was a range 27.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon surmised  that  a range  22 would  be                                                                    
more  attractive  to an  executive  director  compared to  a                                                                    
range 20.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara agreed  that  the director  was a  high                                                                    
level  person  and  the  support  staff  would  assist  with                                                                    
meetings. He  believed ranges 22  and 15 would  better serve                                                                    
the commission than ranges 20 and 17.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg stressed  that  the position  was                                                                    
not  only  a  logistics   position.  He  believed  that  the                                                                    
commission would  be made  up of  dynamic members  who would                                                                    
provide  direction to  the staff.  He believed  the director                                                                    
position deserved a higher range.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  MOVED to change the  two positions to                                                                    
a range  22 and range 15.  There being NO OBJECTION,  it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:01:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough  MOVED to  report CSSB 53(FIN)  out of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  note. There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 53(FIN) was REPORTED out  of committee with a "do pass"                                                                    
recommendation  and with  one  previously published  amended                                                                    
fiscal impact note: FN3 (GOV).                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BETTYE  DAVIS, SPONSOR, appreciated the  work of the                                                                    
committee.   She   pointed   out  that   there   were   many                                                                    
possibilities for work to be  done voluntarily and potential                                                                    
grants to  obtain. She  believed that  in the  long-term the                                                                    
commission  would   save  the  state  money   and  that  the                                                                    
legislature would  be proud that a  statewide commission for                                                                    
women had been reestablished.  She thanked the committee for                                                                    
its support.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:01:51 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:02:22 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Legislative Research Report AIDEA.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 25
Letters of support for SB 25.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 25
REAP SB25.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 25
SB 25 Power Point Presentation H L&C Version.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 25
Sectional Analysis HCS CS SS SB 25 L&C.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 25
SP Alaska Industrial Development Export Authority Rating Report.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 25
Sponsor Statement Senate Bill 25 Feb 2012.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 25
SB136.Supporting Documents-Leg Research.Vet Tax Credit Report.12.28.11 (1).pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 136
SB136.Supporting Documents-Article AK Business Monthly.Hiring Military Veterans is Good Business.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 136
SB136.Support Letters - business owners, vets helping vets, etc..pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 136
SB136.Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 136
SB136.Article.states try to help veterans find jobs.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 136
SB136 Summary of Changes.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 136
SB136 Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 136
SB119 Supporting Documents-AATA Handout.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 US Bureau of Labor Statistics Athletic Trainers.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 SYNOPSIS OF ATHLETIC TRAINER REGULATION BY STATE.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 Support Letters 24.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 Support Letter AAFP.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 Support Information Case for HS Activities.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 Sponsor Statement HFIN.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 Other States Chart Comparison.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 NATA Handout on Certified Athletic Trainers.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 Ltr of Supt AATA.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 Comparison of Participation Laws.docx HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB 119 Athletic Training Educational Overview.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB119 CS WORKDRAFT Uversion.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 119
SB136 WORKDRAFT 27-LS0983-U.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 136
SB53 Handout.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 53
SB53 Additional Support.pdf HFIN 4/15/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 53